Daley, the White House chief of staff, will twice in the course of our hourlong interview refer to the first three years of Barack Obama's administration as "ungodly" and once as "brutal."

So do you think, I ask, that President Obama would be satisfied saying, "We did a good job, we did good stuff," and if he's a one-term president, "That's the verdict of history"?

"Nope, no, absolutely not!" Daley begins, shaking his head and then growing more outraged at the thought of a single term entering the president's mind. "I think he'd be angry! Pissed! Unhappy! Frustrated! No, if somebody said yes to that, that would be crazy."

But the polls stink.

"Considering the debacle that he came in with, the tough choices he's made and how there have been few, if any breaks, he says it himself all the time," Daley says. "He doesn't know why he's as high as 44 percent."